Second Meeting of the Task Team of GEO Task ST-09-02
ISPRA, Rome, Italy
September 30, 2010, 14:00 - 18:00
Minutes (Version 0.1 of 2010-10- 8 21:31)
Participants:
Gisbert Glaser,
ICSU, Paris, France
(Contributor, ICSU)
Vojko Bratina,
EC
(Contributor, EC)
Jean-Louis Fellous,
COSPAR
(STC Co-Chair, ST-09-02 Co-Lead)
Marc Parsons,
National Snow and Ice Data Center, University Colorado, Boulder, USA
(Guest)
Florence Beroud,
EC
(Guest)
Stuart Marsh,
British Geological Survey
(Contributor, U.K.)
Jun She,
Danish Meteorological Institute
(Contributor, Denmark)
Paula Diaz,
UAB-CREAF
(Guest)
Ivette Serrel,
CREAF
(Guest)
Joan Masó,
UAB
(Contributor, OGC)
Douglas Cripe,
GEO Secretariat
(Contributor, GEO Sec.)
Ian Mccallum,
IIASA
(Contributor)
Bente Lilja Bye,
BLB
(Contributor, EC - EGIDA)
Christoph Waldmann,
University of Bremen
(Contributor, MARUM)
Stuart Minchin,
CSIRO Land and Water, Black Mountain Laboratories
(STC Co-Chair)
Hans-Peter Plag,
NBMG, University of Nevada, Reno
(ST-09-02 Co-Lead (IEEE) and Point of Contact)
Stefano Nativi,
Istituto di Metodologie per l'Analisi Ambientale (CNR-IMAA) University of Florence at Prato
(STC Co-Chair)
Agenda:
1
(14:00 - 14:10) Welcome, introduction of participants, and acceptance of agenda
2
(14:10 - 14:15) Notes from the Kickoff meeting
The notes from the kickoff meeting are available
here
. The notes will not
be reviewed, but if there are any additional corrections, they will be noted.
3
(14:15 - 14:25) Review of Action Items
A list of the action items is available
here
. Reports on the status of action items should
be submitted where possible before the meeting. Since most AIs are either closed or obsolete
only a brief summary will be given.
4
(14:25 - 14:45) Report on Activities of Participants
Each participant is asked to prepare a brief written report on recent activities contributing to the specific
activities
as listed in the Task Sheet. The written reports for inclusion in the Task Sheet should be submitted before
asap to the Task POC. During the meeting, only highlights should be reported.
5
(14:45 - 15:15) Showing GEOSS at Work: Compelling Examples
The ST-09-02 members were asked prior to the meeting to review a number of proposals for compelling
examples. Based on the reviews, a selection was made and the result will be presented. We
will discuss different options for publishing these examples.
6
(15:15 - 16:00) The GEO Label Report (STC Roadmap Activity 2b)
A preliminary incomplete draft label concept has been distributed to the members.
The STC has discussed some aspects. We will
discuss the draft proposal for the Label and its implementation.
7
(16:00 - 17:00) A GEOSS Citation Standard (STC Roadmap Activity 2a)
A proposal for a GEOSS Citation Standard will be presented during the meeting.
The goal is to agree in the near future on
a draft proposal to be presented and discussed at the next STC meeting.
8
(17:00 - 17:20) Presence at major conferences
ST-09-02 has several activities aiming to ensure the presence of GEOSS topics at major conferences either
through plenary presentations, dedicated sessions, and side event. The status will be reviewed. This
indicates the need to develop a more structured approach for the future. We will discuss
how such an approach could be developed.
9
(17:20 - 17:35) GEOSS Promotion Material
We will discuss to what extent we can contribute to the production of promotion material and how this should
be disseminated.
10
(17:35 - 17:50) Future WebEx conferences and face2face meetings
The experience over the last year has shown that working only be e-mail is not very
productive, and some meeting activity is needed to keep actions going. It is proosed to
have at least one meeting per year, preferably two, which should be co-located with other
meetings (AGU, STC, future EGIDA meetings). In addition, a WebEx conference should take
place every two months.
11
(17:50 - 18:00) Summary and Action Items
Notes:
1
(14:00 - 14:10) Welcome, introduction of participants, and acceptance of agenda
Hans-Peter Plag
opened the meeting by welcoming the participants.
Hans-Peter Plag
thanked ISPRA for hosting the meeting.
A round of introduction was not necessary since all participants has been at preceding meetings and were well
acquainted with each other.
There were no additions are changes to the proposed agenda.
2
(14:10 - 14:15) Notes from the Kickoff meeting
The notes from the kickoff meeting, see
php
, were not
reviewed. No additional corrections were requested.
3
(14:15 - 14:25) Review of Action Items
A list of the action items was available
here
. No recent reports on the status of action items
were submitted prior to the meeting.
Hans-Peter Plag
mentioned that with respect to AI ST2-KO-7 to
ST2-KO-15, only four proposals for compelling examples were submitted. Therefore, a larger number of additional
proposals were solicited and referred to further discussions under Top 5.
Douglas Cripe
informed the participants that with respect to
Action Item
ST2-KO-6:
Douglas Cripe
will work with the GEO Secretariat to get a web-based slide library with high-level slides about
GEO and GEOSS started for free down-load by those who would like to compile a presentation including
information about GEO or GEOSS.
Responsible:
Douglas Cripe,
Deadline:
2009-10-31,
the GEO Secretariat would prefer a
case-by-case decision on which slides to provide in support of those who want to present on GEO.
Hans-Peter Plag
explained that the slide library was about a low number of representative slide on key aspects of GEO and
GEOSS.
Douglas Cripe
responded that in this case, the slide library should be rediscussed with the GEO Secretariat.
Stuart Marsh
added that the Task team should develop the library independent of support from the GEO Secretariat,
and
Hans-Peter Plag
agreed to this suggestion.
David Halpern
asked whether the slide library would also include presentations given previously by others that had
GEO and GEOSS-related contents.
Hans-Peter Plag
explained that such presentations were collected under a different
activity. The slide library should include a set of carefully selected and annotated slides. He invited
David Halpern
to send his relevant presentation(s) to him, so that they could be included in the presentation
archive.
Action Item
ST2-M2-1:
David Halpern
will send copies of GEO and GEOSS-related presentation(s) to
Hans-Peter Plag
for inclusion in the
presentation archive.
Responsible:
David Halpern,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Concerning
Action Item
ST2-KO-19:
Douglas Cripe
will discuss with the Director of the GEO Secretariat to possibility to have the Director give a
presentation at the 2009 Conference of the International Association of Universities (IAU).
Responsible:
Douglas Cripe,
Deadline:
2009-08-30,
it was reported that the theme of the 2010 IAU Conference did not lend itself to
a presentation on GEO.
Douglas Cripe
committed to:
Action Item
ST2-M2-2:
Douglas Cripe
will investigate the theme of the 2011 Conference of the International Association of
Universities (IAU), and, if the theme is appropriate, contact the organizers in order to get a
presentation on GEO and GEOSS included in the program.
Responsible:
Douglas Cripe,
Deadline:
2010-12-31.
4
(14:25 - 14:45) Report on Activities of Participants
Each participant was asked to prepare a brief written report on recent activities contributing to the specific activities
as listed in the Task Sheet. The written reports for inclusion in the Task Sheet should have been submitted before the meeting
to the Task POC. However, no reports were submitted.
During the meeting, the following highlights were reported:
Douglas Cripe
mentioned the GEOSS meetings in Seattle meeting, which also included a meeting on the
Water cycle. He gave a half-hour talk on GEO, focusing on how GEWEX could interact
with GEO. He also mentioned another meeting addressing geodesy.
Action Item
ST2-M2-3:
Douglas Cripe
will send a copy of the talk on GEO and GEWEX presented at the Water cycle meeting in Seattle.
Responsible:
Douglas Cripe,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Christoph Waldmann
reported on IEEE-organized workshop in Seattle, which focused on the emerging CoP for ocean observations.
Talks on establishing the CoP are under way, and discussions are focusing on how to proceed. He committed to:
Action Item
ST2-M2-4:
Christoph Waldmann
will send a report on the IEEE-organized workshop held in Seattle on September 19, 2010.
Responsible:
Christoph Waldmann,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Jean-Louis Fellous
reported on the 38th COSPAR meeting held in June in Bremen, Germany. The program included dedicated
sessions on Earth observations and GEOSS. There was also a roundtable discussion and a panel discussion on
GEOSS. The Director of the GEO Secretariat gave a keynote on GEOSS.
Action Item
ST2-M2-5:
Douglas Cripe
will make an effort to send the presentation given by the Director of the GEO Secretariat at
the 38th COSPAR meeting for inclusion in the presentation archive.
Responsible:
Douglas Cripe,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Jean-Louis Fellous
also mentioned that COSPAR created a GEO Working group, which is chaired by
David Halpern.
This WG
will propose initiatives, organize GEOSS-related sessions, and ensure presence of GEOSS in publication.
Jean-Louis Fellous
committed to:
Action Item
ST2-M2-6:
Jean-Louis Fellous
will ensure that
Nadine Gobron
provides a brief report on the GEOSS session at the 38th COSPAR meeting.
Responsible:
Jean-Louis Fellous,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Vojko Bratina
reported on the FP7 project EUGINE, which is focusing on three of the nine GEO SBAs:
Water, Climate, Disaster. A workshop was organized in Koblenz, Germany focusing on Water.
Stuart Marsh
reported on the activities during the first six months of UK-GEO. Main focus was on pulling
together the existing communities already engaged. The plan is to span this out to other communities.
A Town Hall meeting is planned for early in 2011 (February to March time window), hosting the GEO-Euro-project WS5.
Gisbert Glaser
reported that ICSU invited GEO Secretariat members to attend several ICSU committee meetings, which
resulted in ICSU learning more about GEO, and the committees initiates ideas of cooperation. The new program
on integrated research on disaster risk is developed with GEO participation. ICSU's World data system
committee also is aiming to increasing awareness of GEO and GEOSS in ICSU.
David Halpern
expressed concerns about a fractionation in GEO through the activities of the U.K. for Europe, GEOSS
in the Americas for South America, etc.
Stuart Marsh
replied that similar to US-GEO, other regions must be able
to do some regional coordination. He also extended an invitation to
David Halpern
to come to any UK-GEO meetings, and he insisted that th
Hans-Peter Plag
reported that at the 15th UIC meeting in Oslo, it was discussed whether regional CoPs can be
accepted, and he pointed out that a UIC paper on CoPs was restricting GEO CoPs to be global. He expressed
concerns that this might keep out important communities which are focusing on issues that are by definition
regional, and saw the need for GEO to reconsider the request that GEO CoPs have to be global.
Stuart Marsh
contribute the observation that social networks can not be forced, but rather have to develop in a
bottom-up fashion.
Joan Masó
remarked that some regions have language problems and therefore tend to be
regional.
Hans-Peter Plag
added that, e.g., in some of the Caribbean Island states, producing material in Spanish is
considered an important contribution to capacity building.
Douglas Cripe
pointed out that GEOSS is a system of
systems, and some of these systems might be regional.
Stuart Marsh
reported on a July workshop on GEO and geology, which had a global participation and included
several African and European countries.
From this workshop, new energy tasks emerged, with one focusing on geothermal energy
(France and South Africa). Another task focuses on long-term opportunities to study paleo-climate, and
soil data.
Finally
Hans-Peter Plag
commented on the work of the Task Team during the fifteen months since
the kick-off meeting. He pointed out that e-mail contributions were
at a very low level and concluded that more meeting activities were needed to stimulate more
active participation. This would be addressed at the end of the meeting.
5
(14:45 - 15:15) Showing GEOSS at Work: Compelling Examples
The ST-09-02 members were asked prior to the meeting to review a number of proposals for compelling
examples. Based on the reviews, a selection was made. The list of the selected examples was presented.
The list is available
here
. He informed the Task team that the selected proposals are
invited to produce one or two-page stories for handouts at the STC booth at the exhibition in Beijing. He
asked for input for a template for these stories, which was to be sent to the authors right after the Task
team meeting.
Marc Parsons
supported the idea of sending out a template.
Stuart Minchin
also was positive to sending some guidelines but
suggested not to be too prescriptive.
Stuart Marsh
suggested to include five to six headings to be addressed, and
asked that the author would be asked to show how GEO made a difference.
Vojko Bratina
volunteered to send an
example for how he intended to describe the example.
Bente Lilja Bye
committed to help with the compilation of guidelines:
Action Item
ST2-M2-7:
Bente Lilja Bye
will compile a few headlines for the one to two-page stories for the handouts of the
compelling examples and send these to
Hans-Peter Plag
for immediate distribution to the authors.
Responsible:
Bente Lilja Bye,
Deadline:
2010-10-1.
Hans-Peter Plag
explained the concept for the publication of the compelling examples. He showed the result of the
study for the logical structure of the web page for the examples
(see
pdf
). He explained that the publication of the examples
would have to be through a living web page giving access to web sites for the individual examples. In
addition, slide shows and/or videos were anticipated. Once the set of examples was representative, a
snapshot in form of a book would be considered. He asked for comments and additional suggestions.
Stuart Minchin
requested that the term compelling examples would not be used on the web page or in publications since this
term would not be understood outside of the STC.
Hans-Peter Plag
replied that the STC Road map and the ST-09-02 Task
sheet both use this term, and the term also had been used for the solicitation of proposals. However,
Stuart Minchin
insisted that the term not be used.
Hans-Peter Plag
proposed to use in the web page header the text
"How GEOSS works for Science and Technology ..." and this was accepted.
Stuart Minchin
asked whether the web page for the examples would be separate from the GEO web page or GEO Portal
and implied that an integrated solution would be more attractive.
Hans-Peter Plag
stated that he would prefer
an integrated solution, but in the development phase prefer a stand-alone version.
Douglas Cripe
reminded the participants that the resources at the GEO Secretariat are very thin, and
no free resources for development of web page were available. He expressed agreement with the web pages
being developed externally as a stand-alone site.
Bente Lilja Bye
requested that the design of the web site would be
consistent with the design of GEO webn pages.
Hans-Peter Plag
asked whether the design should be more like the
GEO web page or the GEO portal, which were quite different. The final consensus was that the design of the
web page should resemble the general design features of the GEO web site and portal.
Hans-Peter Plag
made clear that more proposals for compelling examples needed to be solicited.
Vojko Bratina
volunteered to
extend an invitation to a project that likely would be a good example.
Action Item
ST2-M2-8:
Vojko Bratina
will invite an additional proposal for a compelling example.
Responsible:
Vojko Bratina,
Deadline:
2010-10-15.
6
(15:15 - 16:00) The GEO Label Report (STC Roadmap Activity 2b)
A preliminary incomplete draft label concept had been distributed to the members.
The STC had discussed some aspects, and
Hans-Peter Plag
summarized some of the comments.
The GEO label was then discussed in detail.
Gisbert Glaser
opened the discussion by stating that there were different
issues that needed consideration. He expressed the concern that it might be to early or at all no a good
idea to attach a GEO label to data sets or products in the GEOSS registries. There was a need for more data
sets to be registered, and he asked whether it could be an impediment to immediately rate the data sets. He
also posed questions with respect to the methodology and specifically asked about the difference between
the rating for 'Relevance' and 'User Needs'.
Hans-Peter Plag
explained that 'Relevance' would be based on the subjective rating provided by individual
users (comparable to restaurant or hotel reviews written by individual non-expert customers),
while the 'User Needs' rating would be the result of an objective comparison of the data set to the
requirements published in the URR (thus more comparable to the rating of restaurants agains well-defined
criteria carried out, e.g., by Michelan). He stated that the choice of 'Relevance' for the former rating
may not be a good one and proposed to use 'Perception" instead.
Marc Parsons
saw conflicting thoughts in the label concept and requested that first it needs to be defined and
nailed down what GEO wants to achieve with the label. He also saw a disconnect in the description of the
label and the associated goals in the Task sheet.
Stuart Minchin
voiced his opinion that the proposed label was overengineering the idea. He requested that the goal
should be to have a label that is a stamp of quality and of usage. Scientist would then be able
to take this back and say, I have a stamp from GEO. He also made clear that a label would only be supported
as a voluntary option. He requested that providers can opt in or out, and stated that it should be up
to the provider to decide which parts or which labels they want to be applied to their products.
Hans-Peter Plag
explained that the concept described in the draft document does not exclude a voluntary label.
Stuart Minchin
responded that in his opinion, the quality label should be based on self-assessment of the quality
of products by the provider and explained that an independent assessment would not be accepted in the
GEO community. Thus, providers should be able to decide whether theit datasets if silver, gold or platinum.
Marc Parsons
agreed with
Stuart Minchin
and added that most data sets and products made available through GEOSS
would not come from individual investigators but rather well established data centers and
large organizations. He also requested that it would have to be clear that not having a star in
the user rating would not imply that the data are not good. He proposed that user feedback should be
implemented as a pilot project.
Hans-Peter Plag
made clear that in his opinion the GEO label only makes sense if it can build trust for users, which
would require independent assessment. Self-assessment would not be sufficient for trust building. He
reported that Gilles Ollier identified a peer-reviewed publication analysing Arctic sea ice data, which
cited as data source Google Earth. This motivated the call for a proposal focusing on the development of a
label based on clear quality criteria in the last FP7 call. The goal was to create a chracterization of
data sets that would make sure that researchers know
what data sets to trust.
Marc Parsons
expressed strong opposition against this idea and stated that scientific rigor requires that a
researcher takes full responsibility to ensure that data is trustworthy before using it for studies.
Stuart Minchin
repeated his statements that a label based on independent assessment woul not be acceptable in the
GEO community, and that the voluntary quality label should be based on independent assessment.
Bente Lilja Bye
emphasized the need of a label that could be trusted. Refering to recent examples in the media, where
scientists had been criticized for their data usage (e.g., Climate Gate, and the discussion of the global temperature data),
she expressed the opinion that if scientists want to be trusted, an indendent judgement would help.
Joan Masó
requested that the label would make a distinction between data not rated and data which were badly rated.
He also had problem with the distinction between relevance and user needs.
Hans-Peter Plag
repeated some of his explanations
mentioned above.
Jean-Louis Fellous
reported on an attempt to create a confidence indicator. However, after trying different approaches, in the
end the attmept was given up.
David Halpern
proposed to use a scientific method in defining the label. He wanted to let people know what datasets are available,
and then measure what data sets were being used. He rejected the idea of doing any evaluatation of data sets and
recommended only to let users know know what is being used how much.
Stuart Marsh
commented that this might work is if data sets were being cited, and
Stuart Minchin
added that he considered this only
useful for some data sets.
Hans-Peter Plag
once more emphasized that in his opinion an independed assessment of the products or data set to be labeled is
needed. He emphasized the need for a trust-building label, which would help scientists in several aspects.
Commenting on the previous proposal, he found that counting citation could be included in a label, but alone it could be
mis-leading since data sets with important mistakes would have a tendency to be accessed and cited frequenty. He then informed the
particpants that due to the time he would have to close the discussion.
David Halpern
requested that
Hans-Peter Plag
would summarize and distribute the main points of the discussion, and
Hans-Peter Plag
responded that
the discussion would be reflected as complete as possible in the minutes.
Finally,
Hans-Peter Plag
concluded that the discussion was not close to a reaching a consensus. In fact, the polarized positions
raised the question whether GEO would be able to implement a trust-building label, and expressed his opinion that a label not
designed to assure users of the quality and relevance of a data sets would not make very much sense. In this case, it would be
better to have a data certification implemented by another organization outside of GEO. With respect to the proposed
time schedule, he concluded that there was it was very unlikely that a label concept could be proposed to the next STC meeting,
which also excluded the option to have a proposal ready for the discussion in the 2011 Plenary.
Action Item
ST2-M2-9:
Hans-Peter Plag
will updated the draft GEO label document based on the discussion during the ST-09-02 Task Team meeting and
distribute the document to the Task team for comments.
Responsible:
Hans-Peter Plag,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
7
(16:00 - 17:00) A GEOSS Citation Standard (STC Roadmap Activity 2a)
Hans-Peter Plag
introduced the goals of the Road Map activity for a GEOSS Citation Standard (see
pdf
). He then invited
Marc Parsons
to present the
consideration on data review and citation developed in the ESIP and the IPY.
In his presentation
Marc Parsons
gave an overview of the current best practice with respect to data citation and reviewed the
critical issues under discussion in a borad community (see
pdf
). With respec to
publication of data sets, he emphasized that data should preferably be published in data centers, which can ensure long-term
preservation. Publishing data under URLs that can easily change is not a good solution. Traceability of data sets can be insured i
a data are taged with a persistent identifier. Although there are a number of alternatives, the Digital Object Identifier (DOI) wo
be a good way.
Hans-Peter Plag
commented that the DOI is associated with publisher, and asked whether GEO should request a DOI for citation. He also
raised the question whether GEOSS can be consider as the publisher or just as a catalogue of objects published by others? If
the latter is case, then maybe the others who actually publish the data should set the rules for citation.
Marc Parsons
stated that there are several ways to get around the issues, and he agreed that the publishers should apply
the identifiers. However, for the immediate future, he stated that all these issues copuld be ignored and GEOSS could
use the IPY rules for citation.
Stuart Minchin
emphasized that the GEOSS Citation Standard needs to be more than a data citation standard and should cover
methodologies and models. He also noted that in some countries, governments and agencies do not allow individuals
to be the author of publications
or data sets coming out of these agencies. In this case, it would be difficult to give credit to the authors.
Joan Masó
reminded that in many cases, the number of citations are used to demonstrate relevance and can impact the salary of
an individual. He pointed out that there is the CDI, and this index should be used.
Marc Parsons
informed the participants that there may be problems in maintain the IPY guidelines, since soon the funding
will run out. He articulated the need to find a host for the guidelines, and asked whether GEOSS could take responsibility for
transitioning them into GEOSS guidelines and maintain these afterwards.
David Halpern
injected the comment that GEOSS should not put a label on something.
Hans-Peter Plag
relied that there was no intention
to do so since GEOSS does not provide data.
Stuart Minchin
added that the comment confused the citation standard with the
GEO label.
Marc Parsons
came back to the point that the identifier for digital objects is an issue, since this would put a GEOSS stamp on data.
Stuart Marsh
commented that any library put a stamp into the books, but that does not imply that the books are written by the
library. Similarly, a GEOSS identifier on digital objects would not imply that the objects are created by GEOSS.
Hans-Peter Plag
ask the participants for volunteers to take the IPY guidelines and progress them by adding additional
rules.
Stuart Minchin
proposed to begin with the data part alone and not delay the progress by adding to many other things at
this stage.
Hans-Peter Plag
emphasized that even in this case there was a need to adopt the IPY guideline for GEOSS purposes.
Marc Parsons
added that solving the identifier issue may take years and recommended not to wait with a GEOSS standard until this
is solved.
After some discussion, it was agreed:
Action Item
ST2-M2-10:
Steffen Fritz
with help from
Joan Masó
will review the IPY citation guidelines and adopt these for GEOSS purpose. He will circulate the
updated guidelines to the ST-09-02 Task team for comments to be provided in the December 2010 to January 2011 period.
Responsible:
Steffen Fritz,
Deadline:
2010-11-30.
After iteration in the ST-09-02 Task team, the further process will be discussed with the STC Co-chairs. The goal is to have a
proposal for a standard discussed by all committees and ready for discussion in the GEO Plenary 2011.
8
(17:00 - 17:20) Presence at major conferences
Hans-Peter Plag
reminded the participants that ST-09-02 has several activities aiming to ensure the presence of
GEOSS-related topics at major conferences either
through plenary presentations, dedicated sessions, or side event. Reviewing past experience and current the status,
he indicated that
there is a need to develop a more structured approach for the future. One activity aims to compile a list of major conferences
in all nine SBAs as a basis for further planing. He asked for a volunteer to work on this list together with
Russell Lefevre.
Action Item
ST2-M2-11:
Bente Lilja Bye
will support
Russell Lefevre
in the compilation of a list of major science conferences in the nine SBAs.
Responsible:
Bente Lilja Bye,
Deadline:
2010-12-31.
Stuart Marsh
emphasized the need to cary nout this activity with the goal to compile a strategic list.
Stuart Minchin
reported that the 34th ISRSE meeting in April in Sydney in fact has GEOSS in the title.
Marc Parsons
reported on several events related to GEO North and OGC protocols.
Hans-Peter Plag
requested that a concept be developed to ensure presence of GEOSS-related presentations, sessions and
side events at meetings in SBAs currently nnot targeted.
Bente Lilja Bye
suggested to discussed various approaches. It was proposed:
Action Item
ST2-M2-12:
Russell Lefevre
as lead of the EGIDA outreach WP will develop a concept for the outreach to scientific conferences and
provide this to the Task team for discussion.
Responsible:
Russell Lefevre,
Deadline:
2010-12-31.
9
(17:20 - 17:35) GEOSS Promotion Material
This agenda item was not further discussed.
10
(17:35 - 17:50) Future WebEx conferences and face2face meetings
Hans-Peter Plag
stated that experience over the last fifteen months showed that working only be e-mail is not very
productive for the Task team, and he emphasized the need for some meeting activity in order to
keep actions going. He proposed to have at least one meeting per year, preferably two, which should be
co-located with other meetings (e.g., AGU, STC, future EGIDA meetings). In addition, a WebEx conference should take
place every two months.
He also raised the question of strengthening the task lead by adding the EGDIA WP 3 leader. After some discussion, it
was concluded that the EC would become a co-lead of the task and identify a member of the EGIDA consortium as the representative o
the EC as co-lead.
Action Item
ST2-M2-13:
Florence Beroud
will inform
Hans-Peter Plag
and the GEO Secretariat who is going to represent the EC as co-lead od ST-09-02.
Responsible:
Florence Beroud,
Deadline:
2010-12-31.
It was also discussed that all EGIDA partners involved in the EGIDA Work Package 3 could, and should, join the ST-09-02 Task
Team.
Stuart Minchin
explained that if they could not be a representative of GEO Member Country or a Participating Organization,
then they would have to be seconded by a member of the Task team representing either a Member Country or a
Participating Organization.
Florence Beroud
pointed out that the EGIDA partners were all considered representatives of the EC and therefore
could join the Task team as such.
Joan Masó
voice his opinion that a one-hour WebEx meeting every month would be better than a two-hour WebEx meeting every
second months.
David Halpern
requested that the Task Team meeting would not be co-located with other meeting since in his
position more shorter trips would be easier to accomodate than fewer longer trips.
Marc Parsons,
Vojko Bratina,
and
David Halpern
supported the proposal by
Joan Masó
to have a WebEx conference every month.
Hans-Peter Plag
was not
in favor of having only short, one-hour WebEx conferences since these would seldom allow to conclude discussions
and often require to take up the same discussion in subsequent meeting, which would lead to a lot of wasted effort.
Bente Lilja Bye
supported this view and commented that
the discussions during the meeting had demonstrated that the Task team needed time for real discussions, which would be difficult
to integrate into short WebEx conferences.
Stuart Marsh
recommended to separate the two issues and have a sequence of monthly one-hour WebEx conference for regular reporting,
and, if needed additional WebEx conferences for focused discussions on specific themes.
As a result of the discussion, it was agreed:
Action Item
ST2-M2-14:
Hans-Peter Plag
will set up a doodle poll to identify the best week, day and time in a month to have monthly ST-09-02
WebEx conferences.
Responsible:
Hans-Peter Plag,
Deadline:
2010-10-15.
Action Item
ST2-M2-15:
All ST-09-02 Task Team members will populate the doodle poll with their availability.
Responsible:
All,
Deadline:
2010-10-30.
11
(17:50 - 18:00) Summary and Action Items
Action Item
ST2-M2-1:
David Halpern
will send copies of GEO and GEOSS-related presentation(s) to
Hans-Peter Plag
for inclusion in the
presentation archive.
Responsible:
David Halpern,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Action Item
ST2-M2-2:
Douglas Cripe
will investigate the theme of the 2011 Conference of the International Association of
Universities (IAU), and, if the theme is appropriate, contact the organizers in order to get a
presentation on GEO and GEOSS included in the program.
Responsible:
Douglas Cripe,
Deadline:
2010-12-31.
Action Item
ST2-M2-3:
Douglas Cripe
will send a copy of the talk on GEO and GEWEX presented at the Water cycle meeting in Seattle.
Responsible:
Douglas Cripe,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Action Item
ST2-M2-4:
Christoph Waldmann
will send a report on the IEEE-organized workshop held in Seattle on September 19, 2010.
Responsible:
Christoph Waldmann,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Action Item
ST2-M2-5:
Douglas Cripe
will make an effort to send the presentation given by the Director of the GEO Secretariat at
the 38th COSPAR meeting for inclusion in the presentation archive.
Responsible:
Douglas Cripe,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Action Item
ST2-M2-6:
Jean-Louis Fellous
will ensure that
Nadine Gobron
provides a brief report on the GEOSS session at the 38th COSPAR meeting.
Responsible:
Jean-Louis Fellous,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Action Item
ST2-M2-7:
Bente Lilja Bye
will compile a few headlines for the one to two-page stories for the handouts of the
compelling examples and send these to
Hans-Peter Plag
for immediate distribution to the authors.
Responsible:
Bente Lilja Bye,
Deadline:
2010-10-1.
Action Item
ST2-M2-8:
Vojko Bratina
will invite an additional proposal for a compelling example.
Responsible:
Vojko Bratina,
Deadline:
2010-10-15.
Action Item
ST2-M2-9:
Hans-Peter Plag
will updated the draft GEO label document based on the discussion during the ST-09-02 Task Team meeting and
distribute the document to the Task team for comments.
Responsible:
Hans-Peter Plag,
Deadline:
2010-10-31.
Action Item
ST2-M2-10:
Steffen Fritz
with help from
Joan Masó
will review the IPY citation guidelines and adopt these for GEOSS purpose. He will circulate the
updated guidelines to the ST-09-02 Task team for comments to be provided in the December 2010 to January 2011 period.
Responsible:
Steffen Fritz,
Deadline:
2010-11-30.
Action Item
ST2-M2-11:
Bente Lilja Bye
will support
Russell Lefevre
in the compilation of a list of major science conferences in the nine SBAs.
Responsible:
Bente Lilja Bye,
Deadline:
2010-12-31.
Action Item
ST2-M2-12:
Russell Lefevre
as lead of the EGIDA outreach WP will develop a concept for the outreach to scientific conferences and
provide this to the Task team for discussion.
Responsible:
Russell Lefevre,
Deadline:
2010-12-31.
Action Item
ST2-M2-13:
Florence Beroud
will inform
Hans-Peter Plag
and the GEO Secretariat who is going to represent the EC as co-lead od ST-09-02.
Responsible:
Florence Beroud,
Deadline:
2010-12-31.
Action Item
ST2-M2-14:
Hans-Peter Plag
will set up a doodle poll to identify the best week, day and time in a month to have monthly ST-09-02
WebEx conferences.
Responsible:
Hans-Peter Plag,
Deadline:
2010-10-15.
Action Item
ST2-M2-15:
All ST-09-02 Task Team members will populate the doodle poll with their availability.
Responsible:
All,
Deadline:
2010-10-30.
Minutes prepared by
Hans-Peter Plag
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